Document: Dutch colonial council minutes, 28 September 1647

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NYSA_A1809-78_V04_p337
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Minute of council. To examine the pretended governor, Forrester, and to demand his commission, in order to ascertain by whose authority he claimed Long island and adjacent islands. [1647];Examination. Of Andrew Forrester, of Dundee, in the presence of Carel van Brugge, Adriaen van der Donck, and Philip Geraerdy. [1647]

Document Date
1647-09-28
Document Date (Date Type)
1647-09-28
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The 28th of September anno 1647[1]

The proposition of the honorable director general respecting the pretended governor of Long Island and the neighboring islands being heard in council, it was unanimously considered highly necessary by the honorable director general and council to hear the aforesaid pretended governor, named Forrester, personally in council, in the presence of two or three impartial witnesses, and to examine his commission, in order to ascertain by whose authority he, Forrester, lays claim to the government of Long Island and the islands situated thereabouts. Was signed: P. Stuyvesandt, L. van Dincklaghe, La Montagne, Brian Newton, Poulus Leendersz van die Grift and A. Keyser.

Andreas Forrester, born at a place called Dondey[2] in Scotland, appeared in council, in the presence of Carel van Bruggen, Adriaen van [ der ] Donck and Philip Geraerdy, impartial witnesses, all understanding the English language, being asked, who had given him commission to take possession of Long Island and the neighboring islands as governor and where said commission was, said Forrester exhibited a large parchment, covered with writing, in the form of a commission, to which hung an old broken seal; having no name subscribed, nor any place designated where the commission was issued; also, a power of attorney signed by Marry Steerlings.

The honorable director and council asked said Forrester why the commission was not duly signed? To which he gave for answer, it was not customary and that the seal alone was sufficient.

Said Forrester was further asked if he had no other, or better, commission than the one he now produced and what authority he had to demand the general's commission? To which he gave for answer, he had no other commission at present and therefore could not produce any other.

Said Forrester was also asked in council if their High Mightinesses' ambassador had said in England that he, on behalf of the Lords States, relinquished those parts of New Netherland. Andru Forrester answered that such had been said in the lifetime of Mylord Steerlings.

Translation Superscripts
[1]: Revised from Doc. Rel. Col. Hist. N. Y., 14:80-81.
[2]: Dundee.
References

From the collections of the New York State Archives, Albany, New York.  https://www.archives.nysed.gov/  

Translation link see: http://iarchives.nysed.gov/xtf/view?docId=tei/A1809/NYSA_A1809-78_V04_p337.xml

Published bound volume is also available: Translation: Scott, K., & Stryker-Rodda, K. (Ed.). New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch, Vol. 4, Council Minutes, 1638-1649 (A. Van Laer, Trans.). Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.: 1974.

Copyright to the published bound volume is held by the Holland Society of New York.
A complete copy of this publication is available on the
New Netherland Institute website.

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Long Island
Dundee
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Andrew Forrester
Carel van Brugge
Adriaen van der Donck
Philip Geraerdy
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